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Putting current event info at the top of every page is VERY annoying

it slows down page loading time a LOT, and wastes a lot vertical space on mobile devices.
What we need is a functional header that included navigation to pages that get used a lot
Crew (nav) | Items:Components | Items:Equipment | Missions
- Flinx (talk) 13:08, 17 May 2017

The way MediaWiki works doesn't allow for a "Functional" header like you say. Also, different people use the wiki in different ways, so thats not a possibility. I am looking into the possibility of installing an extension to MediaWiki to allow anyone to enable custom sidebar sections, but thats not quite what your referring to.
As for the event notices at the top, if you don't like them, they are dismissible. That means once you click dismiss, another won't appear until the following week. (or when MediaWiki:Sitenotice-id is updated next). From feedback on Discord, the majority of people like the feature, as it provides quick notice of when a new event is announced by DB, and a quick link to their post, as well as the event page here. If more of the community were to post here against the notices, we could have a poll for/against the notices. Titantalk 13:15, 17 May 2017 (CDT)
I'm fine if I'm in the majority and we keep the event headers if most people like them. The goal is to make the wiki useful to the largest number of people, and the header can be dismissed. :) ~
Why can't we just add text links into the header?
Dismissal is annoying because it totally dismisses it and makes it hard to get back to. Does it really need the splash image and eat up so much space?
Components | Equipment | All Items

Flinx (talk) 13:41, 17 May 2017 (CDT)
Thats not the intent of a site header. A site header should just be for announcements. If your talking about on the bar that has the buttons for page, edit, history, etc., that is also not the purpose for that bar. If you want a custom set of links, that is a perfect use of your user page. Perhaps try bookmarking your user page? Titantalk 13:45, 17 May 2017 (CDT)

Starbase Bonuses

I bit myself on this with Ilia Probe last night and just realized what I'd done a little bit ago, but Starbases are going to wreck stat posting. We're going to have to figure out what we want to do to compensate for them.

We are looking into a possible solution of having a drop down menu to select % increase in stats. Will post an update when I know if its possible. Titantalk 11:46, 5 September 2017 (CDT)
I created User:Tygra_Dax/sandbox/SPb which should allow people to enter skill points with bonus and the bonus for the skill, but insert the values without bonus in the page using subst. However, a problem could to be that the new skill points cannot simply be calculated by applying the bonus and rounding to the nearest integer. In-game values can be 1 higher or lower. Only 1 though. --Tygra Dax (talk) 19:13, 5 September 2017 (CDT)
Nice, however we are going to try to implement a calculator that doesn't use Wiki syntax. See http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Calculator:Other/Urns, or any other JS calculator on that wiki. Also, we are going to try to implement options on the page for starbase bonuses, as seen above the infobox on this page: http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Guard. Titantalk 19:20, 5 September 2017 (CDT)
Nice, however I don't really see how that will help with skill point input. Do you expect editors to put every value in the calculator and then paste the result as the template parameter? The switch can be helpful for reading, though. Are you guys thinking about one switch for each skill? On which wiki page are you discussing about this? I asked DB about the one-off skill points. --Tygra Dax (talk) 02:41, 6 September 2017 (CDT)

Talk pages Standards and practices

I would like to add to the standard practice of indentation that within a discussion/conversation everyone keeps their own indentation. Meaning that The first contributor to a talk page should have no indentation in the message. The next person starts their message with one colon (:), and the third person uses two colons (::), and so on. BUT if the first person replies to the message again, he or she uses the same indentation for their subsequent messages as for the first message. This method helps distinguish who is saying what instead of just having this step ladder going down and everyone still has to figure out who is saying what..

EXAMPLE OF HOW IT IS NOW:

Person A

Person B
Person C
Person A
Person C
Person A

EXAMPLE OF HOW I'D LIKE IT:

Person A

Person B
Person C

Person A

Person C

Person A

I'd love to hear what you guys think Otto Vonbacon ❯❯❯ Talk 11:21, 7 February 2018 (CST)

Personally I’m fine with either, I just prefer when people indent period. (Some people dont bother indenting, and that is what is annoying) And signing messages... Titantalk 11:32, 7 February 2018 (CST)

Update Image on Fleet List

Tried to figure out how to do this myself but just could not find the way to do this.

Any way to update the Fleet image in the Fleet list to the current image on the fleet page?

Temporal Defense Initiative updated it logo, I would like for it to also be shown on the Fleet list as well.

Thanks! Admiral Christopher Pike (Britewood) (talk) 10:52, 30 March 2018 (CDT)

All you have to do is upload a new version of the image that is named Fleet <fleetname>.png. It may take a couple hours to update on all pages.. Titantalk 13:43, 30 March 2018 (CDT)
Thanks Titan, I will give that a try, I noticed the image my VA uploaded to Fleet page reverted back to old image, is this because of the same reason? Admiral Christopher Pike (Britewood) (talk) 08:45, 7 April 2018 (CDT)

New Discord invite

Please change the Discord invite on the front page banner to: https://discord.gg/8Du7ZtJ. The current one was accidentally revoked and will no longer work. Ashenjuniper (talk) 15:23, 29 April 2018 (CDT)

Done Titantalk 15:27, 29 April 2018 (CDT)
Thank you!! Ashenjuniper (talk) 21:06, 29 April 2018 (CDT)

Crew not appearing in Category: [Rarity]

Some of us in Discord have noticed that the most recent crew in the game, (Tourist Reed, Queen Guinevere Kira and Smuggler Kasidy Yates) are not showing up in https://stt.wiki/wiki/Category:Super_Rare and https://stt.wiki/wiki/Category:Legendary, and we can't figure out why. The bots we use to fetch crew data aren't able to grab info for these characters. I've made sure they've been added to https://stt.wiki/wiki/Template:SACharacter as well, which is my only hunch. No luck there either. Any help in figuring this out would be appreciated! Ashenjuniper (talk) 02:45, 7 July 2018 (CDT)

I can see those characters are listed under Special:UncategorizedPages. Something clearly went wrong on creation Glorat (talk) 10:11, 7 July 2018 (CDT)
Sometimes categories dont work properly, I will see if I can figure out why. It is not an issue with the page, it might be an issue with the version of MediaWiki this wiki is running on. Will also see about updating the wiki. Titantalk 01:59, 8 July 2018 (CDT)
Seems like it is, indeed, an issue with this version of Mediawiki. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tmlh1cna07n5uffj (via a GoT member who spoke with Glorat). We're on 1.28; upgrading to 1.29 or 1.3 would supposedly help. Ashenjuniper (talk) 11:16, 11 July 2018 (CDT)
I'd also like to know when it's working again, so will follow the thread ~ as agree with all the above and just to add it's been an issue with every new character added from the Kosst Kejal event onwards. (Also that Queen Guin' Kira also needed a 'new letter category' - Q for legendaries; wondered if this set any problems off) -- TIA --Sasha0z (talk) 03:38, 14 July 2018 (CDT)
I am aware of the issue. I will look into upgrading the wiki, but no eta on that. Further replies regarding this issue, as the next step I will be taking will be to upgrade, but as I said, no eta on that. Titantalk 05:23, 14 July 2018 (CDT)

Crew not appearing in Category: [Traits]

I don't know if this related to above issues with Rarity, but some new crew doesn't show in the respective Trait overview. I noticed with Yelgrun, Ikat'ika and Diseased Changeling Founder during the Dominion Mega and they are still not included. 84wb (talk), 03 September 2018 (CDT)

The above is causing all category issues. Unfortunately, it takes considerable effort and time to update MediaWiki. As such, no eta on that. Titantalk 05:11, 3 September 2018 (CDT)

User Fleet List

I added a new fleet to the list, but it does not appear. The new fleet is called * ST * Stars Risa. what is the problem. Grettings User:*ST* Cpt. Redav

Fleets only appear if they have a fleet page that has been updated within the last 6 months. Titantalk 19:24, 2 November 2018 (CDT)
Thanks, everything is now great User:*ST* Cpt. Redav

Can you add Sheriff Worf as a variant of Worf?

Would you add Sheriff Worf as a variant of Worf? I can't figure out how to add him to

--Morris (talk) 01:06, 13 February 2019 (CST)

He's already in the SACharacter list. Where are you seeing that he's not among the other Worfs? Middlehead (talk) 11:01, 13 February 2019 (CST)

Testing signature requirement - ignore

IGNORE THIS SECTION - THIS IS A TEST

CrewNav

I would like some feedback regarding changes to the crew pages and crewnaw. It's a little confusing, and not consistent. Some are listed by first name, some last names, those with same last names, do they need to have first names included, etc. I had thought initially to make the crewnaw easier to navigate, but subsequently realized the character and crew pages reflect the same inconsistencies. Is this something I can work on, or should it be left alone? Ace (talk) 22:36, 7 April 2019‎ (CST)

First, please remember to sign posts made on talk pages. (type ~~~~ after your post.) I would recommand asking that question to siguard, koba44, or middlehead. Titantalk 11:01, 8 April 2019 (CDT)

Didn't I? I thought I had. I must've been too focused on making the post make sense. Also, as admins, do they not check this noticeboard? Ace (talk) 20:42, 8 April 2019 (CDT)

Nope, i added it after. While they may/may not check this page (or watch this page), they definitely do watch their own talk pages. Talk pages are typically the most efficient way to contact anyone on this wiki. Titantalk 00:20, 9 April 2019 (CDT)

Alright. I had just thought that since this page says it's quicker and more efficient to post here than Talk pages so that at least one of them would see it. I'll try them individually. Thanks Ace (talk) 11:29, 9 April 2019 (CDT)

I posted on siguard and middleheads Talk pages, but no response. I don't know koba44 so didn't try them yet. Ace (talk) 09:23, 12 April 2019 (CDT)

Somebody please. No one said anything about fixing the crewnav, and after I did so, now there are disagreements on how to post things. If there's no clear direction, how do we cooperate? Ace (talk) 17:01, 24 April 2019 (CDT)

My opinion is crewnav is useless as it is. I think there should be 3 separate crewnav boxes. 1 the way is is/was (dont have an opinion), 1 categorized by show (duplicates should be in both), and 1 categorized by most-recent canon rank (and non-starfleet). An example of something similar can be found at the bottom of this page on the Runescape wiki. For the category by show it could even be auto-populated by dpl3 based on category if a new category was added [[Category:Characters by show]] with subcategories for each show, and 1 for all the movies. Just some thoughts. Titantalk 20:06, 24 April 2019 (CDT)
Besides not helping the current situation, why have you not implemented the changes then? Ace (talk) 11:56, 25 April 2019 (CDT)
First, when responding to a comment in a conversation, it helps the flow if you indent using 1 or more :. I haven't implemented it because I don't really design templates anymore for the wiki. Too busy in real life and don't really play STT much anymore. I still check the wiki daily though for spam/issues. As for the current situation, i just put my opinion for what crewnav ideally should look like, that is not intended to "help" the situation from your perspective, just add an opinion/idea... Titantalk 06:15, 26 April 2019 (CDT)
I decided to throw one together by show. Now this is sorted first by initial appearance of the character, and then by last name. What do you think? https://stt.wiki/wiki/User:Ace/CrewNav Ace (talk) 22:08, 11 September 2019 (CDT)

Category:Crew Full

To User:Siguard , User:Koba44 and User:Middlehead ,

A while back, I posted this on the Star Trek Community Portal.

Here is a full link to that suggestion.

Star_Trek_Timelines_talk:Community_portal#Category:Crew_Full

What do you guys think?

Should we use the image that User:Siguard have been using for the Category:Crew Full or the smaller one that Dlefebvre1701 has been using?

IMO, I suggest we use the one Siguard have been using and there should a standard resolution for these images.

Thanks.

Captain Spirk (talk) 10:45, 4 March 2020 (CST)

Database errors

Attempting to create the variant page for Kivas Fajo (https://stt.wiki/wiki/Kivas) sends a database error instead of a prompt to create the new page. " 'Fatal exception of type 'Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError' " Trying to create a page for his item "Kivas's Proximity-Activated Field" results in the same error. Is any attempt to create a new page currently bugged?

Ashenjuniper (talk) 09:15, 18 September 2020 (CDT)

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